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a stronger material

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 5:51 am
by boep777
Hi All, I need a material to print my fridge's door railing holder.
First holder I made was form PETG, after 2 month the holder broke. (I actually was impressed that it got broken perpendicular to printing direction ).
Now I made an ABS unit - lets see.
I ordered madesolid PET+ which is claimed to be stronger and less brittle. Any other suggestions ?
I would prefer plastic without infill - something which will not wear the hot end nozzle (v4). -- Thanks!

Re: a stronger material

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:00 am
by jimc
your really not going to get any stronger than esun's epc. thats about the strongest thing your gonna find thats actually easily printable. gotta print it at about 270.


pet+ is basically very similar to petg. you wont see any better strength with that. opaque colors layer bond poorly also. or atleast it alwasy did. i havent used it in about a year and half. petg will be stronger than the abs part as well.

Re: a stronger material

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:41 am
by insta
boep777 wrote:Hi All, I need a material to print my fridge's door railing holder.
First holder I made was form PETG, after 2 month the holder broke. (I actually was impressed that it got broken perpendicular to printing direction ).
Now I made an ABS unit - lets see.
I ordered madesolid PET+ which is claimed to be stronger and less brittle. Any other suggestions ?
I would prefer plastic without infill - something which will not wear the hot end nozzle (v4). -- Thanks!
Either eSUN's ePA, or cast it with polyurethane resin.

I have the ability and know-how to do either of these, feel free to hire me ;)

Re: a stronger material

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:07 am
by jsc
How does the ePA handle bridging? Any fuzz issues like we see with PETG?

And which resin do you like, that is strong but demolds easily? I've played around a little bit with casting resins, but they're a devil to demold.

Re: a stronger material

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:08 pm
by boep777
Either eSUN's ePA, or cast it with polyurethane resin.
Did you mean ePC ? Can't find the material online...

Will try ePC - thanks !

Re: a stronger material

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:48 pm
by insta
jsc wrote:How does the ePA handle bridging? Any fuzz issues like we see with PETG?

And which resin do you like, that is strong but demolds easily? I've played around a little bit with casting resins, but they're a devil to demold.
I've visited Smooth-On's local distributor pretty heavily. 95% of the time I'm doing a silicone mold first, usually platnium-cure (MoldStar 15 is my preference).

boep777: contact sales@intservo.com and order a spool of ePA. It's not ePC. It's a pain to get stuck to the bed (I use garolite, thick gluestick on glass might work), but it's really strong once it's printed.

Re: a stronger material

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:56 am
by boep777
Thanks, I wrote to INTSERVO - will try both ePC and ePA.

Re: a stronger material

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:00 pm
by boep777
Ok, today ABS holder got broken - PET+ is installed, ePC holder is ready for test, go ePA roll as well ...
PETG survived about 2-3 months
ABS survived a month

Re: a stronger material

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:26 pm
by Bratag
Carbon Fiber?

Re: a stronger material

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:45 pm
by jimc
Yeah i just did some testing and samples on some esun carbon fiber filled nylon. Wow what awesome stuff. It stuck down to a hairspray coated bed rock solid and its got zero warp that i could see. Extremely odd for nylon.